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Posted 03 January 2005 - 02:07 PM
Is she only on the list because of age? Personally, I've never heard of her. What is her claim to fame? Apart from being a nun(?) and old. Wikipedia came up with nothing, the dont have a page for her.
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 02:19 PM
Fair question - surprising Wiki hasnt got her...
http://www.tanbooks....fatima_plan.htm
I get the feeling she'll have a few obits when she goes
http://www.tanbooks....fatima_plan.htm
I get the feeling she'll have a few obits when she goes
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 03:31 PM
I don't really agree with her being on the list, I think that it breaks the rules of nominating non-famous people because of their age.
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 07:11 PM
Yeah, Sister Lucia passes the famous enough test, but only because of the publicity generated by her claim to be able to see the the vision of the Fatima. What's really interesting is that there are many people in her own Catholic church who see her as an imposter and an opportunist and are using various means to silence her.
I found two interesting articles on her when I was searching the web
Silencing of Sister Lucia
Crime against the Catholic Church
It does not really matter to me whether or not she is genuine or a fraud, as I am not a Catholic and don’t take end of the world prophecies seriously. The most relevant question though - Is she likely to die soon? At 98 and in frail health, there is a good chance that it will happen this year.
I found two interesting articles on her when I was searching the web
Silencing of Sister Lucia
Crime against the Catholic Church
It does not really matter to me whether or not she is genuine or a fraud, as I am not a Catholic and don’t take end of the world prophecies seriously. The most relevant question though - Is she likely to die soon? At 98 and in frail health, there is a good chance that it will happen this year.
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Posted 03 January 2005 - 07:29 PM
Had a quick look through your links ff. Interesting. Yours to GR.
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Posted 04 January 2005 - 03:17 AM
Came across one of them too whilst looking.
She is quite famous (in her own sphere) - I had heard of her, though only vaguely.
Got a bit of a fixation on the consecration of Russia to Her (the Virgin Mary's) Immaculate Heart, whatever that is, hasn't she ?
And the third secret is meant to be pretty dull, about loss of faith in the Catholic church - except in Portugal, for some obscure reason.
She is quite famous (in her own sphere) - I had heard of her, though only vaguely.
Got a bit of a fixation on the consecration of Russia to Her (the Virgin Mary's) Immaculate Heart, whatever that is, hasn't she ?
And the third secret is meant to be pretty dull, about loss of faith in the Catholic church - except in Portugal, for some obscure reason.
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Dodo deado, Dodi deado, Di deado, Dando deado ... Surely Dido's looking dodgy ?
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Dodo deado, Dodi deado, Di deado, Dando deado ... Surely Dido's looking dodgy ?
Despite the high cost of living, it still seems popular.
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Posted 23 January 2005 - 05:41 PM
I've been to Fatima. I'm no Catholic and to me that place was the birthplace of kitch. Yuck!
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If Lourdes is the pilgrimage destination number one, this is number two. This is the Church with the courtyard which can accomodate more than 300.000 people.
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Posted 04 February 2005 - 02:05 PM
Sister Lucia, or "irmã Lucia" as we call her in Portugal, is one of three brothers and sisters, all shepperds, who allegedly encountered Saint Mary in Fatima, in the 1910's. They're testemony was recongnized by the Vatican, after months of interrogation an (allegedly) even torture.
Sister Lucia's brother Francisco and sister Jacinta died soon after these "encounters"with the Virgin Mary. Their process of canonization is presently taking place in the Vatican.
Sister Lucia has herself been linked with a number of unexplained cures and is said to be the holder od three secrets revealed by the virgin. Two of them have allready been made public by the Vatican (after they took place): World Wars I e II and the assassination atempt on Pope John Paul II, that took place in the 80's, in the same day (May 13th) the Virgin first "appeared" to the three shepperds. Pope John Paul II is a devotee os the Fatima Virgin and has visited the site severall times.
The recognition of the "Fatima Miracle" isn't based solely on the testemony of sister Lucia and her brother and sister. Thousands of people claimed to have witnessed "The Miracle of the Sun", in wich the Sun literally "started to dance in the sky".
I'm not a Fatima believer myself, but, as celebrities go, I think beeing consideres a living saint by the Pope himself is a good business Card
Sister Lucia's brother Francisco and sister Jacinta died soon after these "encounters"with the Virgin Mary. Their process of canonization is presently taking place in the Vatican.
Sister Lucia has herself been linked with a number of unexplained cures and is said to be the holder od three secrets revealed by the virgin. Two of them have allready been made public by the Vatican (after they took place): World Wars I e II and the assassination atempt on Pope John Paul II, that took place in the 80's, in the same day (May 13th) the Virgin first "appeared" to the three shepperds. Pope John Paul II is a devotee os the Fatima Virgin and has visited the site severall times.
The recognition of the "Fatima Miracle" isn't based solely on the testemony of sister Lucia and her brother and sister. Thousands of people claimed to have witnessed "The Miracle of the Sun", in wich the Sun literally "started to dance in the sky".
I'm not a Fatima believer myself, but, as celebrities go, I think beeing consideres a living saint by the Pope himself is a good business Card
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Posted 04 February 2005 - 02:55 PM
Roger Moore also holds the distinction of being a living saint.
As does Ian St John.
As does Ian St John.
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Posted 04 February 2005 - 03:04 PM
I preferred Roger when he starred along side Tony Curtis in the Persuaders. Top show!
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Posted 04 February 2005 - 04:24 PM
Absolutely.
Pardon me but I got to run
The fact's uncommonly clear
I got to find who's now the number one
And why my angel eyes ain't here
Excuse me while I disappear
The fact's uncommonly clear
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And why my angel eyes ain't here
Excuse me while I disappear
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Posted 05 February 2005 - 09:23 PM
I actually suggested Lucia first. I'll be quite sad when she dies, her being one of the last people to have experienced such a vision. At least she has her place in history.
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Posted 05 February 2005 - 09:27 PM
Catherine, on Feb 5 2005, 09:23 PM, said:
I actually suggested Lucia first. I'll be quite sad when she dies, her being one of the last people to have experienced such a vision.
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:16 PM
Well .. she died !
today .. 13 Feb at 17h in Portugal
today .. 13 Feb at 17h in Portugal
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 08:33 PM
No sign of this any where yet on the news sites - got a link guest?
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 10:01 PM
"A jury consists of twelve people who determine which client has the better lawyer".
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 11:22 PM
football_fan, on Feb 13 2005, 10:01 PM, said:
Including a lovely spelling error:Quote
John Paul credit’s the Virgin’s intercession for his survival.
I know this is the wrong thread for language pedantry...
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Posted 14 February 2005 - 06:59 AM
Now that she has died, is it possible that if there was more to the vision than has been told, that it will be revealed?
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