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#1 themaninblack

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:06 PM

Right folks, it's that time of year again...

The rules...

and here's an excerpt from the email I'll be sending as to the procedure:

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All I want is a team name, an email address, 20 nominations and a maximum of 3 subs. Make sure you have 20 different names and they all alive at the time you send the email out. Make sure the spelling is correct (although as we know from Mr. Al Megrahi, there are interpretations of names) and if the choices are obscure, that I am made aware of who they are (no need to explain who Nelson Mandela is for example, but if it's his brother-in-law or something, I probably do need to know). Also bear in mind there are some celebrities with similar or even identical names (Phil Taylor the darts player and Phil Taylor the ex-footballer for example). All this makes my job a lot easier.

Also put your subs in order so if one choice snuffs it, then I'll immediately replace them with the first sub on the list. I will inform you of this change when it happens.

Remember: unless indicated, the nominated joker is the one at the top of your list!

There is no reason to change the joker unless he/she carks it before December 31st, when I’ll ask you to nominate one. When you make the choice of joker, you have to stick to it. The same goes for the rest of the team. If you are re-entering under a different name, let me know what the previous name was for my records. If it's a theme team, let me know that it is, even if seems obvious looking at the list. You can enter theme and normal teams at your leisure, but put them as separate emails please, makes it better for me to count back on the ones I've received if there are any issues. There is a maximum number of 3 teams per individual (can be any combination of normal and theme teams) although I know in some cases that certain emails will contain many teams as part of a "syndicate" of different teams.


Good luck everybody!
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Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell
It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell
And the streets are full of press men
Bent on getting hung and buried
And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt
Who sucks you while you're sleeping
It's the theatre of financiers
Count them, fifty 'round a table
White and dressed to kill."

David Bowie - We Are The Dead (1974)

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:29 PM

Huzzah! Well done on taking it on for another year, TMIB and I am looking forward to all the new little things on the site. You've taken it a lot further than I would've done had circumstance allowed me to keep it running.

I only hope I have a year more like 2010 than this year, though.
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#3 themaninblack

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:32 PM

 Octopus of Odstock, on 30 November 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Huzzah! Well done on taking it on for another year, TMIB and I am looking forward to all the new little things on the site. You've taken it a lot further than I would've done had circumstance allowed me to keep it running.

I only hope I have a year more like 2010 than this year, though.

And there's more to come as I've done a few bits 'n pieces that will be revealed next year. Hopefully the process isn't going to be as problematic as last years...
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"We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature
Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell
It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell
And the streets are full of press men
Bent on getting hung and buried
And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt
Who sucks you while you're sleeping
It's the theatre of financiers
Count them, fifty 'round a table
White and dressed to kill."

David Bowie - We Are The Dead (1974)

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:39 PM

Epic work but I fear that the work load of handling 3 teams per entrant will be an emence job to undertake. How about limiting the third team squad can only contain those people already listed on the DDP this last year?
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:52 PM

If too many come in then I might introduce an absolute limit, but most people will just send the one team....(he hopes)
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"We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature
Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell
It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell
And the streets are full of press men
Bent on getting hung and buried
And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt
Who sucks you while you're sleeping
It's the theatre of financiers
Count them, fifty 'round a table
White and dressed to kill."

David Bowie - We Are The Dead (1974)

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:53 AM

This'll be my first year competing, so this is quite exciting. :)


Why did you change the symbol for unique picks :ghost5: ?

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 08:05 AM

 angryGreatness, on 01 December 2011 - 01:53 AM, said:

This'll be my first year competing, so this is quite exciting. :)


Why did you change the symbol for unique picks :ghost5: ?

I'm hoping to enter the competition for the first time as well. I've drawn up a draft list but I think I might just sit on it for now and submit it closer to Christmas, just to see if anything changes.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 09:58 PM

I'm going to take a punt this year too. One question from one still a little wet behind the Deathlist ears - those with longer lists in their posts like Chunder above - are those lists purely for personal satisfaction?
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 10:18 PM

 Grande Pablo, on 02 December 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

I'm going to take a punt this year too. One question from one still a little wet behind the Deathlist ears - those with longer lists in their posts like Chunder above - are those lists purely for personal satisfaction?

All the lists over 20 names are usually either A) Lists for other Dead Pool competitions or B )Made just for fun.
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Stefano Borgonovo, Jo Bryant, Ryan Buell, Sir Henry Cecil, Hugo Chavez, Van Cliburn, Katherine Crowe, Bonnie Franklin Posted Image, Francis George, Ron Hynes, Salvatore Iaconesi, Clive James, Sandy Jardine, Colm Murray Posted Image, Jack Pardee, Brian Shivers, Anne Williams, Michael Winner, Tito Vilanova, Masao Yoshida

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Patty Andrews, Errie Ball, Jimmy Cobb Posted Image, Abdul "Duke" Fakir Posted Image, Maurice Faure, Benjamin Ferencz, Barry Gibb, Clint Hill, Jean Kennedy Smith, Jozef Kowalski, Madeleine LeBeau Posted Image, George Lowe, Rochus Misch Posted Image, Shirley Mitchell, Tommy Ramone, John Stephenson Posted Image, Theodore "Dutch" Van Kirk, Ewald-Heinrich von Kleist-Schenzin, Janet Waldo, Betty White

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 09:19 AM

 angryGreatness, on 01 December 2011 - 01:53 AM, said:

This'll be my first year competing, so this is quite exciting. :)


Why did you change the symbol for unique picks :ghost5: ?

I didn't. It's somehow different in the rules pages than in the teams/score pages. All it takes is a bit of re-coding and ghost will come back...

BTW could a mod change the sub-heading to have one less X please. Got carried away... Thanks!
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"We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature
Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell
It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell
And the streets are full of press men
Bent on getting hung and buried
And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt
Who sucks you while you're sleeping
It's the theatre of financiers
Count them, fifty 'round a table
White and dressed to kill."

David Bowie - We Are The Dead (1974)

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 07:28 PM

MMXII - ah that's much better! :D
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"We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature
Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell
It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell
And the streets are full of press men
Bent on getting hung and buried
And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt
Who sucks you while you're sleeping
It's the theatre of financiers
Count them, fifty 'round a table
White and dressed to kill."

David Bowie - We Are The Dead (1974)

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:43 AM

Just as clarity for 2012, and to quite possibly accidentally leak one of my prospective uniques: what's the rule on obituaries that appear behind the Times paywall?
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:36 AM

Hmmm. If you have access to the page of the obituary, it could be possible to save it as a html document, ship it to me and then I'd add/link the document to the server...
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"We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature
Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell
It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell
And the streets are full of press men
Bent on getting hung and buried
And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt
Who sucks you while you're sleeping
It's the theatre of financiers
Count them, fifty 'round a table
White and dressed to kill."

David Bowie - We Are The Dead (1974)

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Posted 14 December 2011 - 11:35 PM

So from what I understand, we can have two theme teams this year. To make the theme team league game more exciting Im guessing?
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Star Dust 2011 DDP: Vasily Aleksanyan - Dick Cheney - Michael Douglas - Douglas Engelbart - Michele Ferrero - Aretha Franklin - Dennis Frederiksen - Zsa Zsa Gabor - Helen Gurley Brown - Kristin Hallenga - Derryn Hinch - Christopher Hitchens - Whitney Houston - Arte Johnson - Kim Jong-il - Charlie Louvin - Hosni Mubarak - Eunice Sanborn - Marcia Strassman - Laura Ziskin (35th)
Star Dust 2012 DDP: Raven Alexis - Abdelbaset Al Megrahi - Yonni Barrios - Gary Carter - Hugo Chavez - Annette Funicello - Robin Gibb - Superstar Billy Graham - Geoffrey Hughes - Etta James - Wojciech Jaruzelski - Hosni Mubarak - Mahinda Rajapaksa - Nile Rodgers - Vidal Sassoon - Luis Alberto Spinetta - Norman Spinrad - Marcia Strassman - Zhuang Zedong - Ethan Zohn (19th)


Star Dust 2013 DDP: Stefano Borgonovo - Theo Bos - Ryan Buell - Hugo Chavez - Van Cliburn - Katherine Crowe - Bonnie Franklin - Superstar Billy Graham - Damon Harris - Peter Harvey - Clive James - Wojciech Jaruzelski - Candye Kane - Grace Sung Eun Lee - J. L. Lewis - Nelson Mandela - Hosni Mubarak - Jack Pardee - Arpad Pusztai - Marcia Strassman

2011 DDP Theme Team: Seoul Takers
2012 & 2013 DDP Theme Team: The Bedsoring '20s
2012 DDP Theme Team: Califorewarned, Oregoners, Washingtons of Bodies Away

2013 DDP Theme Team: Bet on Black!

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 09:05 AM

You can have either three normal teams, three theme teams, one theme team and two normal teams or one normal team and two theme teams...
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"We're today's scrambled creatures, locked in tomorrow's double feature
Heaven's on the pillow, its silence competes with hell
It's a twenty-four hour service, guaranteed to make you tell
And the streets are full of press men
Bent on getting hung and buried
And the legendary curtains are drawn 'round Baby Bankrupt
Who sucks you while you're sleeping
It's the theatre of financiers
Count them, fifty 'round a table
White and dressed to kill."

David Bowie - We Are The Dead (1974)

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 09:12 AM

 themaninblack, on 16 December 2011 - 09:05 AM, said:

You can have either three normal teams, three theme teams, one theme team and two normal teams or one normal team and two theme teams...

It should be one entrant one team. Any other system is stacking the odds against anyone who submits just one team. Counter argument is that anyone can submit three teams but why stop at three? Why not five? Theme team is OK but doubling or trippling up on normal teams smacks of cheating to me.
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Posted 18 December 2011 - 07:50 PM

Im gonna do two themes. Having multiple normal teams takes the fun out of it. But it is 2012 you know.. lets make this a big year.
Star Dust 2010 DDP: Abdelbaset Al Megrahi - Pope Benedict XVI - Algirdas Brazauskas - Kama Chinen - Tony Curtis - Kelsey Grammer - David Hasselhoff - Dennis Hopper - Abdullah Ibrahim - Joseph Jackson - Kim Jong-il - Jennifer Lyon - Simon MacCorkindale - Benny Mardones - Nancy Reagan - Angela Scoular - Sonia Sotomayor - Gloria Stuart - Margaret Thatcher - Lil' Wayne (53rd)
Star Dust 2011 DDP: Vasily Aleksanyan - Dick Cheney - Michael Douglas - Douglas Engelbart - Michele Ferrero - Aretha Franklin - Dennis Frederiksen - Zsa Zsa Gabor - Helen Gurley Brown - Kristin Hallenga - Derryn Hinch - Christopher Hitchens - Whitney Houston - Arte Johnson - Kim Jong-il - Charlie Louvin - Hosni Mubarak - Eunice Sanborn - Marcia Strassman - Laura Ziskin (35th)
Star Dust 2012 DDP: Raven Alexis - Abdelbaset Al Megrahi - Yonni Barrios - Gary Carter - Hugo Chavez - Annette Funicello - Robin Gibb - Superstar Billy Graham - Geoffrey Hughes - Etta James - Wojciech Jaruzelski - Hosni Mubarak - Mahinda Rajapaksa - Nile Rodgers - Vidal Sassoon - Luis Alberto Spinetta - Norman Spinrad - Marcia Strassman - Zhuang Zedong - Ethan Zohn (19th)


Star Dust 2013 DDP: Stefano Borgonovo - Theo Bos - Ryan Buell - Hugo Chavez - Van Cliburn - Katherine Crowe - Bonnie Franklin - Superstar Billy Graham - Damon Harris - Peter Harvey - Clive James - Wojciech Jaruzelski - Candye Kane - Grace Sung Eun Lee - J. L. Lewis - Nelson Mandela - Hosni Mubarak - Jack Pardee - Arpad Pusztai - Marcia Strassman

2011 DDP Theme Team: Seoul Takers
2012 & 2013 DDP Theme Team: The Bedsoring '20s
2012 DDP Theme Team: Califorewarned, Oregoners, Washingtons of Bodies Away

2013 DDP Theme Team: Bet on Black!

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 02:24 AM

I'm giving this a shot for the first time. My rare abilities to keep folk alive in these things suggests I'll do rather badly.
DDP 2013: S Jardine (joker), R Mugabe, J Vance, Jaruzelski, J Blume, R Mason, N Edwards, D Kirwan, F Sanger, B Dole, V Cliburn, J Havelange, M Ali, M Jopling, B Pertwee, M Eden, R Buell, D Martinus, B Metsu, F Starr

Other combined Deadpools: E Wallach, R Attenborough, L Ferlinghetti, VN Giap, R Misch, H Kissinger, A Savoldi, F Bough, F Phelps, M Winner, B Nolan, GHW Bush, R Ebert, E Priebke, J Talabani, J Lovelock, A Briggs, D Sinden, J Freeman, C Pincher, R Asherson, J Garner, M McManus, G Willard, L Rainer, D Slocombe, G Clerides, B Foulkes, B Cant, FGD Jean, Philip, N Mandela, P MacNee, P Worsthorne, L Blue, Sir H Cecil, M Weiner, C Townes, P de Jong, R Coase, T Finney, R Clark, D Ellis, J la Motta, L Zamperini, K Ollerenshaw, P Cardin, G Hamilton, F Thornton, C de Duve, A Whicker, C James, G Whitlam, P Andrews, J Pardee, R Dean, C Hollingworth, H Lee, J Williams, M Gorbachev, H Garza, O Sharif, J Fontaine, H Wouk, L Philips, A Suarez, D Day, E de Souza, B Kay, D Simpson, S Rimmer, G Johns, R Dotrice, P Vaughan, R Moody, R Hardy, G Cole, A di Stefano, F Fielding, R Harris. total 8/100

2012: 25/100
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 02:40 AM

I'm working on a Low Countries theme team. It's not at all easy to find picks who'll pass the obit requirements.

I also need a catchy name.

regards,
Hein
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Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz al-Saud, Giulio Andreotti, Hugo Chávez, Jacques Chirac, Felix Dennis, Bonnie FranklinPosted Image, Damon Harris, Clive James, Wojciech Jaruzelski, Jiroemon Kimura, Helmut Kohl, Manisha Koirala, Nelson Mandela, Bruno Metsu, Rochus Misch, Robert Mugabe, Julie Newmar, Chopper Read, Sister Wendy, Tito Vilanova

DDP 2013 theme team Minions of Xuleneb:
Theo Bos, Albert II of Belgium, Beatrix of the Netherlands, Corry Brokken, Dick Bruna, Raymond Ceulemans, Godfried Cardinal Danneels, Mark Eyskens, Fabiola of BelgiumPosted Image, John Fentener van Vlissingen, Gerard Helders, Jacky Ickx, Jan Janssen, Jean of Luxembourg, Piet de Jong, Kees Rijvers, Wim Ruska, "Toots" Thielemans, Martinus Veltman, Geert Wilders

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 04:06 AM

 Magere Hein, on 21 December 2011 - 02:40 AM, said:

I'm working on a Low Countries theme team. It's not at all easy to find picks who'll pass the obit requirements.

I also need a catchy name.

regards,
Hein

De(ath) Lage Landen?
DDP 2013:

Better Them Than Us!:
Stefano Borgonovo, Jo Bryant, Ryan Buell, Sir Henry Cecil, Hugo Chavez, Van Cliburn, Katherine Crowe, Bonnie Franklin Posted Image, Francis George, Ron Hynes, Salvatore Iaconesi, Clive James, Sandy Jardine, Colm Murray Posted Image, Jack Pardee, Brian Shivers, Anne Williams, Michael Winner, Tito Vilanova, Masao Yoshida

I Will Survive! [Theme: Last Living]
Patty Andrews, Errie Ball, Jimmy Cobb Posted Image, Abdul "Duke" Fakir Posted Image, Maurice Faure, Benjamin Ferencz, Barry Gibb, Clint Hill, Jean Kennedy Smith, Jozef Kowalski, Madeleine LeBeau Posted Image, George Lowe, Rochus Misch Posted Image, Shirley Mitchell, Tommy Ramone, John Stephenson Posted Image, Theodore "Dutch" Van Kirk, Ewald-Heinrich von Kleist-Schenzin, Janet Waldo, Betty White

ShadowList 2013: Eli Wallach, Rev. Billy Graham, Stan Lee, Nelson Mandela, Patty Andrews, Olivia de Havilland, Kirk Douglas, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Margaret Thatcher, Beverly Cleary, George H.W. Bush, Gen. Wojciech Jaruzelski, Joan Fontaine, John Glenn, Prince Philip, Luise Rainer, Christopher Lee, Ray Harryhausen, Fidel Castro, Bhumibol Adulyadej, Nancy Reagan, Muhammad Ali, Carol Channing, Bob Dole, Al Molinaro, Don Pardo, I.M. Pei, Pete Seeger, Henry Kissinger, Dick Van Dyke, Chuck Yeager, Doris Day, Mikhail Kalashnikov, Stan Musial, John Paul Stevens, Don Rickles, Vera Lynn, Mickey Rooney, Jimmy Carter, Richard Attenborough, B.B. King, Prof. Irwin Corey, Ed Koch, Richard Adams, Stephen Hawking, Gough Whitlam, Jonathan Winters, Noel Neill, Lauren Bacall, Yogi Berra




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