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[Godot]

Paul Bearer, on 21 February 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

I plan to give up procrastination next Lent.

Ah, there is still life as we used to know it but it's fading like the big red eye in Hal's brain - "Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do................

[Godot]

To labour the point, how can Deathlist or Blue Peter compete with this easy-to-make Discreet Companion Ladies' Ray Gun? The world has moved on. It's not the site's fault. People just aren't dying like they used to. Look at Robin Gibb. I think we have to start facing reality - death has become unfashionable.

Maybe people have given it up for Lent.

[Damon Killian]

I'm giving up, giving up things for lent

[Josco]

Work.

And not just for Lent either.

[Godot]

Josco, on 22 February 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

Work.

And not just for Lent either.

Oh yeah, I've tried this but it's not that much fun. There's just not enough people to piss off in a home office but it's been nice to give up answering the phone, door, wife etc. I've taken to photographing ladybirds.

[Magere Hein]

Godot, on 22 February 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Josco, on 22 February 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

Work.

And not just for Lent either.

Oh yeah, I've tried this but it's not that much fun. There's just not enough people to piss off in a home office but it's been nice to give up answering the phone, door, wife etc. I've taken to photographing ladybirds.

Very relaxing, I've been told, for the ladybirds too.

regards,
Hein

[Spade_Cooley]

Only middle class kids watched Blue Peter.

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Spade_Cooley, on 22 February 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Only middle class kids watched Blue Peter.

Not when I was a kid they didn't. (By which, I mean working class kids did too).

[Lard Bazaar]

I'm giving up fuck all. So there.

[Godot]

Spade_Cooley, on 22 February 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Only middle class kids watched Blue Peter.

Spade that's bollocks.

[Godot]

I've given up being nice for Lent.

[Spade_Cooley]

Godot, on 22 February 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

Spade_Cooley, on 22 February 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Only middle class kids watched Blue Peter.

Spade that's bollocks.

You know it's true. It's the CITV/CBBC divide. It's not a coincidence that New Labour's destruction of traditional values of working class values coincides with the death of CITV.

[Red Flag]

I would agree with that, aside from ChuckleVision, which my middle class parents were never keen on as well (although I always enjoyed it). Having said that, CITV's programmes for young kids was always slightly better when I was growing up - Thomas the Tank Engine, Tots TV, The Riddlers etc (should give you a rough date as to how old I am)

Kids TV is rubbish these days [/rosetintedspecs]

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Spade_Cooley, on 22 February 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Godot, on 22 February 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

Spade_Cooley, on 22 February 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Only middle class kids watched Blue Peter.

Spade that's bollocks.

You know it's true. It's the CITV/CBBC divide. It's not a coincidence that New Labour's destruction of traditional values of working class values coincides with the death of CITV.

Just to define the terms of reference, which era are you talking about? I was a working class kid of the 60s/early 70s and watched Blue peter until Jenny Hanley proved a greater attraction on Magpie.

[Spade_Cooley]

time, on 22 February 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Just to define the terms of reference, which era are you talking about? I was a working class kid of the 60s/early 70s and watched Blue peter until Jenny Hanley proved a greater attraction on Magpie.

You see, that's what I've based my heavily-researched thesis on. From my understanding back in those days there was a clear class divide when it came to Blue Peter/Magp (and, I won't lie, I only vaguely understand what Magpie was, something to do with talk radio nutjob Tommy Boyd right?). And in my youthful days of the late 80s/early 90s, CBBC seemed a lot... worthier. CITV was all bright colours and people being splatted with cream pies and Knightmare with that beardy dude haunting my darkest dreams for the next two decades as he cackled over graphics of the children competing's faces turning to skulls and Julia Sawahalahala being a solid 7 on Press Gang. CBBC was just, like, lots of TV shows that had the faint aroma of Enid Blyton around them. And The Movie Game,which is as an obscure a reference as you'll ever see on this website.

In the process of researching this answer (read: trying to remember what The Movie Game was called), I found out that the 1980 series of Screen Test was won by Jan Pinkava, director of Ratatouille.

[Paul Bearer]

Wax Beans, on 22 February 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

For Lent this year it has been suggested I forgo my daily portion of wax beans. Seems a trifle brutal to ask such a sacrifice.

Why not just give up posting utter shite on websites?

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Spade_Cooley, on 22 February 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

time, on 22 February 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

Just to define the terms of reference, which era are you talking about? I was a working class kid of the 60s/early 70s and watched Blue peter until Jenny Hanley proved a greater attraction on Magpie.

You see, that's what I've based my heavily-researched thesis on. From my understanding back in those days there was a clear class divide when it came to Blue Peter/Magp (and, I won't lie, I only vaguely understand what Magpie was, something to do with talk radio nutjob Tommy Boyd right?). And in my youthful days of the late 80s/early 90s, CBBC seemed a lot... worthier. CITV was all bright colours and people being splatted with cream pies and Knightmare with that beardy dude haunting my darkest dreams for the next two decades as he cackled over graphics of the children competing's faces turning to skulls and Julia Sawahalahala being a solid 7 on Press Gang. CBBC was just, like, lots of TV shows that had the faint aroma of Enid Blyton around them. And The Movie Game,which is as an obscure a reference as you'll ever see on this website.

In the process of researching this answer (read: trying to remember what The Movie Game was called), I found out that the 1980 series of Screen Test was won by Jan Pinkava, director of Ratatouille.

There must have been a shift around the late 70's early 80's; as a kid, my Grandparents (upper-working class) never watched BBC. It was always an effort to get them to put Dr Who (Hartnell/Troughton vintage) on if we happened to be visiting Saturday tea-time.

At home, viewing was split between BBC and ITV. BBC - Jaqckanory, Blue Peter, Magic Roundabout, Crackerjack; ITV, Thunderbirds, Stingray, Tomorrow People, Lift Off with Ayshea (at least an 8, possibly 9) and the aforementioned Magpie.

[Toast]

time, on 22 February 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:

At home, viewing was split between BBC and ITV. BBC - Jaqckanory, Blue Peter, Magic Roundabout, Crackerjack; ITV, Thunderbirds, Stingray, Tomorrow People, Lift Off with Ayshea (at least an 8, possibly 9) and the aforementioned Magpie.

Crackerjack!

[Godot]

OK Spade not complete bollocks but far too simplistic. I come from as working class a background as it's possible to get but I wouldn't have been surprised to find that my parents voted conservative - they never told me and I never asked. They had values, I suppose, that were more aligned to the BBC than ITV - and so do I. I couldn't warm to Magpie, but I couldn't relate much to people like Christopher Trace or Valerie Singleton either. But John Noaks, well he was very down to earth and working class. It's not just a class thing but a bit of a north-south thing too. The middle class is very strong down south but in the north in my town when I was a kid there weren't many middle class people so there were no Jonses to keep up with or to suggest what TV station to watch. The BBC just seemed better and didn't have any adverts. But when the other side did something decent such as Coronation Street, we watched it. The thing is, nearly all the best stuff was on BBC. ITV had Tommy Cooper, Benny Hill and World In Action and that was about it. Another thing - middle class very definitely didn't mean better as James Cameron pointed out when he showed all the Irish having a great time down in third class on Titanic - until it sunk and they all died. There's a lot to be said for the working class. It needs to be revived.