I knew my post would get some lengthy replies, there's no surprise there.
I won't comment on everyting in all responses, here are a few things that caught my attention:
I suspect,If you took your stance on the the age related issue to its extreme, precious few of us would actually "get it" with the "Hitler was a bit of a bastard" fraternity. How could I, a middle aged man, begin to understand the absolute evil of a man and his regime if I wasnt there at the time?
I dont think being an adult at the time of the Moors murderers has much to do with the revulsion and hatred of the people who were pivotal to it all.
My tuppence worth - I think the fact that some of us weren't alive when the Moors Murders occurred is irrelevant - that fact makes the events no less horrific in my opinion, and does not preclude people from feeling emotion of whatever kind about it.
The revulsion Brady's crimes cause in us is universal in place and time, as it should. That they cause much stronger emotions in the British public I also understand. I first learned about the moors murders in this forum. To give an indication of their visibility in the Netherlands: the Dutch Wikipedia has a short article about Myra Hindley, none about Ian Brady or the murders. The murders and trial must have been reported in the Dutch media, but I have no idea to what extent. When Hindley died there was some media attention. I suppose that, reversely, few Brits will be aware of any Dutch murderers, other than those of high-profile victims, even though they caused similar emotions in Dutch society.
In general, public outcry over ghaslty crimes and criminals tends to diminish over time. In Brady's case this doesn't seem to happen. Brady has done his bit to stay in the picture, as have politicians and the media. That was, and is, my point.
Treat others as you would like to be treated? - mostly I do that, but if I were in a room with somebody that had tortured my child to death in the most hideous of fashions, I fear I would not be able to stop myself beating the living shit out of the cunt - but I suppose, like the 'would you kill your terminally ill family member' question, one cannot know what they would do until they were in that position.
I have no way of knowing what I would do then, but the thing is: none of the posters, me included, is in such circumstances in relation to Brady. If somebody does act in personal retaliation I understand that, even though it's not the right thing to do. I well remember Marianne Bachmeier, a German woman who shot the suspected murderer of her daugter in court in 1981. Her trial led to considerable media attention, even in the Netherlands. Eventually she was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to six years in prison, of which she served three.
I always found this video as kind of proof to the afterlife, one of the best video's I ever saw. Depends on the person though.
Ah yes, near-death experience. There are problems with that. It's anecdotal evidence. I have no reason to assume those anecdotes are not sincere, a very close friend of mine, who was and is an atheist, reported one after surgery. But as Alan L. Leshner
once remarked: "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'evidence.' Thousands of people must have lived through circumstances similar to those of people reporting a near-death experience and don't
report anyting out of the ordinary. The most serious problem is, however, what does it mean? A person who had an near-death experience cannot share it. There may well be a natural explanation for it, but unfortunately one we don't know. Anyway, my take on the afterlife is: if there is one, I'll find out. If there isn't, nobody will.
My opinion regarding the death penalty I expressed in 2005 in the aptly named topic "The Death Penalty
". I haven't changed my mind since.