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Posted 29 November 2006 - 12:11 AM

Congratulations to the Deathlist of making 20 years of predictions.

Who'd have thought that a conversation in a student bar on the death of Cary Grant
could have led to all this.... :D

(probably) Britain's longst running 'Dead Pool'.

How did it keep going?
How many of the originators are still bothered?
And did happen to Deathlist 1988?

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 12:07 PM

Happy Anniversary deathlist.
20 years since the death ofCary Grant today.


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Posted 29 November 2006 - 06:23 PM

View PostWindsor, on Nov 29 2006, 12:07 PM, said:

Happy Anniversary deathlist.
20 years since the death ofCary Grant today.


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Funnily enough, I can remember it well about Cary Grant's death - didn't Jimmy Cagney
die in the same year?
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 06:56 PM

View Postthemaninblack, on Nov 29 2006, 06:23 PM, said:

View PostWindsor, on Nov 29 2006, 12:07 PM, said:

Happy Anniversary deathlist.
20 years since the death ofCary Grant today.


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Funnily enough, I can remember it well about Cary Grant's death - didn't Jimmy Cagney
die in the same year?


Yes he did. I remember Cary Grant's death really well too. They showed a lot of his films as tribute and I remember sulking behind the sofa when "Father Goose" came on because I didn't want to watch another of his films.

1986 must have been the year I starting taken notice of "celebrity" deaths as I remember exactly where I was when I heard that Ted Moult had blown his brains out.
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 06:58 PM

View PostHandrejka, on Nov 29 2006, 06:56 PM, said:

View Postthemaninblack, on Nov 29 2006, 06:23 PM, said:

View PostWindsor, on Nov 29 2006, 12:07 PM, said:

Happy Anniversary deathlist.
20 years since the death ofCary Grant today.


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Funnily enough, I can remember it well about Cary Grant's death - didn't Jimmy Cagney
die in the same year?


Yes he did. I remember Cary Grant's death really well too. They should a lot of his films as tribute and I remember sulking behind the sofa when "Father Goose" came because I din't want to watch another of his films.


1986 must have been the year I starting taken notice of "celebrity" deaths as I remember exactly where I was when I heard that Ted Moult had blown his brains out.

Yeah, me too. And when Rock Hudson died (or was that 1985?).
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 07:00 PM

View PostHandrejka, on Nov 29 2006, 06:56 PM, said:

Yes he did. I remember Cary Grant's death really well too. They showed a lot of his films as tribute and I remember sulking behind the sofa when "Father Goose" came on because I didn't want to watch another of his films.
1986 must have been the year I starting taken notice of "celebrity" deaths as I remember exactly where I was when I heard that Ted Moult had blown his brains out.

I don't remember Cagney or Grant's deaths, but I do remember distinctly Danny Kaye's & Fred Astaire's a year later in 1987. Danny Kaye's was the first celebrity death that saddened me, I used to love him in Hans Christian Andersen when I was a little boy.

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 07:06 PM

View PostOctopus of Odstock, on Nov 29 2006, 07:00 PM, said:

View PostHandrejka, on Nov 29 2006, 06:56 PM, said:

Yes he did. I remember Cary Grant's death really well too. They showed a lot of his films as tribute and I remember sulking behind the sofa when "Father Goose" came on because I didn't want to watch another of his films.
1986 must have been the year I starting taken notice of "celebrity" deaths as I remember exactly where I was when I heard that Ted Moult had blown his brains out.

I don't remember Cagney or Grant's deaths, but I do remember distinctly Danny Kaye's & Fred Astaire's a year later in 1987. Danny Kaye's was the first celebrity death that saddened me, I used to love him in Hans Christian Andersen when I was a little boy.

The first celebrity death I can remember clearly (Lennon's shooting is hazy- I was under the impression for some years afterwards that he survived!) was Arthur Lowe in 1982....
"I must have killed more men than Cecil B. DeMille."

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 07:25 PM

The first I remember clearly was Violet Carson's in December 83. I have hazy memories of Hitchcock going and I remember a time in early 83 when "Close to You" kept playing on the radio when I was getting ready for school, which must have been around the time Karen Carpenter died, but I don't remember the death itself.

It's odd that my other earliest momeries are from before that. I remember the Reagan/Carter election in 1980 and I remember number one records from the end of 1980 too, so I don't understand why I don't remember big deaths from that time too.

1984 and I remember loads, Moorecambe, Diana Doors, Bernard Youens, the guy who played Albert Tatlock.
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 07:37 PM

I think the first one I remember was John Lennon. I distinctly remember a few weeks later it being the topic of conversation when we arrived up north at my grandparents for Christmas. We moved to Australia a few months later though, and I can't remember any further notable passings until we returned to this country in '83 and then Tommy Cooper popped it. My sister saw it on the telly and was quite disturbed.

Anyhow, many hearty congratulations on your milestone. :)

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 07:51 PM

Happy Anniversary DL. I'm having real problems accepting that 1986 was 20 years ago :) .

My first memories of celebrity deaths were Peter Sellers and John Lennon both in 1980. For some reason I was disproportionately upset about Peter Sellers.
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 07:59 PM

The first one that I remember was Jim Varney, back in 2000. Before that, I had never really cared about celebrity deaths.

I'm a young 'un I guess. I didn't even have my first hit until 2004, with Ronald Reagan!
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 08:03 PM

View PostCanadian Paul, on Nov 29 2006, 07:59 PM, said:

The first one that I remember was Jim Varney, back in 2000. Before that, I had never really cared about celebrity deaths.

I'm a young 'un I guess. I didn't even have my first hit until 2004, with Ronald Reagan!

Probably Princess Diana in 1997. I was 10.
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 08:57 PM

View PostLard Bazaar, on Nov 29 2006, 07:37 PM, said:

Then Tommy Cooper popped it. My sister saw it on the telly and was quite disturbed.

I remember people talking about it the day afterwards & I remember watching the show, but I can't remember the death as it were. Probably, because at 5, I was too young to really understand what was going on.
I remember loads, generally, from way before 1987 (I remember the 1982 World Cup, even though I was 4, for example) but bar example the Challenger disaster, I can't remember anything death related at all before Kaye/Astaire went.

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 09:01 PM

I remember when Elvis died and my mum was sat in front of the tv crying.
I asked her what was wrong, she said that Elvis was dead. I started crying until I realised it was Presley and not Costello that she was referring to

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 09:37 PM

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 09:42 PM

I remember when Mama Cass Elliot died (1974) - no, it was not from choking on a chicken bone or any other such crap. I remember Nixon resigning (1974), the Birmingham Six bombings (1974), Charles Lindbergh dying (1974), Secreteriat winning the Triple Crown (1973) as well as Affirmed a few years later (1978 - I had a huge crush on Affirmed's jockey). I remember Munich (1972) - one of my first clear memories of a current event that I could process enough of to understand what was going on (I would have been six, and we were living in Germany and my father was in Munich at the time). John Lennon died when I was in the 10th grade (1980 - 12 days before my 15th birthday), Elvis just before I started seventh grade (1977). 1977 was also the second summer of the Son of Sam in New York City as well as of massive power outages on the Eastern seaboard.

Twenty years ago - November 1986 - I was pregnant with my oldest child. :) During that year the Challenger exploded as I watched it take off on television, Mir was launched, Kurt Waldheim was accused of WWII atrocities, Geraldo Rivera opened Capone's vault on national television and after a huge buildup found a bottle of moonshine (that was hilarious), Chernobyl exploded, one of the first US Postal Service shootings took place, and Cliff Burton (Metallica) was killed in a bus crash.

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 10:19 PM

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 10:23 PM

The first celebrity death I remember was Elvis in 1977, I didn't know who he was but I can remember our teacher talking about it. I remember Steve McQueen & John Lennons deaths in 1980 very clearly and I did know who they were!

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Posted 29 November 2006 - 11:29 PM

John Lennon is the first one I remember, more from just remembering the news stories rather than any down to any significance I attached to it at the time. I was aware of the Beatles and very soon became aware of Lennon's stuff as a load of it got re-released that very xmas, but without really putting the two together.

Although we had to sing the St Winifred's School Choir bollocks at school in the midst of all the Lennon stuff, I hated the whiny snotty lead girl's voice even aged 6. It surprises me that I manage to hate it more with every passing year, I thought pain was supposed to fade over time?

I also remember watching the Tommy Cooper death 'Live' From Her Majesty's (the TV show of that name, not actually from Liz's house) but like OoO I can't recall thinking at the time that I'd just seen a man dying in front of me live, so to speak.

I was on my way in the car to play football when we heard Diana died, we all just couldn't work out why there was classical music on all the radio stations until we caught an announcement. In our heavily hungover car we were more concerned about the terrible music, and found that was the general consensus from the other carloads of hungover team-mates upon arrival at the ground. Can't say the feeling's really changed over the years; I have no beef with the royals but I didn't know her, what was I supposed to feel past the fact that a stranger died who hadn't done much personally to make me feel one way or the other? I'm sure her family won't grieve over any deaths in my family, and I wouldn't expect them to. I still have trouble understanding how people who didn't know her sobbed themselves into a stupor about her funeral, or made pilgrimages to lay flowers at her memorial (whatever they might have found admirable about her life or tragic about her death) and then show a tenth of the emotion when a real life loved one passes away, whether a friend or family member. I think I'm glad I don't understand, empathy is one thing but this is way more than that.

Wow, who'd have thought I had any sort of opinion on that? Certainly not me. A bit less surprising I conveyed it in such a long-winded and long-sentenced manner though. :)
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Posted 29 November 2006 - 11:49 PM

In our first year of secondary school we all got the jist of Elvis's death, but the first death that cut me up was Ronnie Peterson's. Till that point, he had had a very good year backing up the championship win of Mario Andretti and it was really cruel that his life ended just when most people were under the impression that he had been pulled out of the fire just in time.
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