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Posted 13 October 2006 - 10:27 PM

These are politicians, former PM's, and presidents that could have a place on next years list. They are the following...

Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo - Obiang is suffering from terminal prostate cancer, amongst other illnesses, is reported to weigh as little as 50kg, and is said to be existing in agony.

Robert Mugabe - Rumored failing health\canidate of the past

Hosni Mubarak - Prostate Cancer\president of Egypt

Jorge Rafael Videla Redondo - Former president Argentina

Lee Kuan Yew\ first Prime Minister of the Republic of Singapore\ 83 years old

Khamtai Siphandon\ Former president of Laos\ 82 years old

Wojciech Jaruzelski\ Former Polish PM\ 83 years old

Walter Scheel\ federal minister of economic cooperation and development\87 years old

Helmut Schmidt\ German politician\ 88 years old

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 10:33 PM

View PostBanshees Scream, on Oct 13 2006, 11:27 PM, said:

These are politicians, former PM's, and presidents that could have a place on next years list. They are the following...

Helmut Schmidt\ German politician\ 88 years old

Schmidt still jetsetting

Funny you should mention him just as I was looking for somewhere to post this article. Looks robust & frequent flying means he isn't on deaths door yet, even if he does like a cigarette or 70.

Not for DL 2007, me thinks.
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Posted 13 October 2006 - 10:43 PM

Helmet was just included because of his age. A few days ago I did some research, Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo is going to die, the egyption president probably won't, but he is named because of his cancer. Overall a few of these names should be successful next year.

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 11:00 PM

View PostBanshees Scream, on Oct 13 2006, 10:27 PM, said:

These are politicians, former PM's, and presidents that could have a place on next years list. They are the following...

Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo - Obiang is said to be existing

Robert Mugabe - Rumored canidate of the past
Hosni Mubarak - Cancer of Egypt
Jorge Rafael Videla Redondo - Former
Lee Kuan Yew- Minister of of Singapore
Khamtai Siphandon- resident of Laos
Wojciech Jaruzelski- Former PM
Walter Scheel- federal development
Helmut Schmidt-German pear, old
Aside from the obvious.......that there is a thread for 2007 possibles I am disgruntled that you neglected several fine choices and misspelled candidate.

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 11:05 PM

Mugabe and Schmidt are probale DLr's

Thingywhathisname sounds like a good harvester of points for DDP,
so he's on that provisional list...




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Posted 13 October 2006 - 11:08 PM

Mind it's a bugger, Gerald Ford - DL 2005 and 2006 - may well die in 2007. Never was much of a crowd pleaser our Gerald!
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Posted 13 October 2006 - 11:12 PM

View Postmaryportfuncity, on Oct 14 2006, 12:08 AM, said:

Mind it's a bugger, Gerald Ford - DL 2005 and 2006 - may well die in 2007. Never was much of a crowd pleaser our Gerald!

He weren't much of a President either...but no matter...he's going to die if
it's the last thing he does! :)
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 06:23 AM

180.56 Sharon
162.04 Castro
153.37 Ford
122.31 Thatcher
115.00 Lanasa Conte
113.88 Mugabe
111.24 Pinochet
110.98 Yeltsin
98.00 Ulufa'alu
88.31 Shamir
86.77 Bush GWH (41)
83.60 Noriega
82.14 Mubarak
78.74 Bush GW (43)
76.32 Musharraf
70.00 Berlusoni
69.00 Mbasogo
68.49 Allawi
68.60 Botha
68.44 Mandela
65.22 Jaruzleski
65.06 Mulroney
58.36 Abbas
57.08 Menem
56.84 Blair
56.58 Pope Ben'XVI
56.39 Chirac
55.78 Clinton
54.00 Talabai
52.08 Kohl
51.52 Waldheim
51.00 Karzai
49.33 Schmidt
43.46 Gorbachev
43.12 Chrietian
41.10 Mintoff
38.41 Boutros B' Ghali
39.84 Carter
38.31 Vajpayee
37.49 Yuhchenko
37.00 Barre
35.11 Alfonsin
35.00 Schroeder
35.00 Bouteflika
30.50 Ahamadinejad
30.02 Peron
26.05 Major
24.02 Yew
23.18 d'Estaing

Just a few names that have found their way into my spreadsheet.
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 06:31 AM

There are many good choices on that list RA. There is a question I have been meaning to ask you though. How do you come up with a scoring system for your choices? Is there a certain amount of points you allocate for old age, health, hospital visits, illness, etc and how do you allocate them?

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 08:07 AM

Hi Football Fan
Sometimes it a rule of thumb - but I've standardised a factor of seriousness from say 3 months to live 70points in its own right down to say 0.33 points for each year of parkinsons. Prognosis, complaint and condition added to how often their name crops up (OoO was so very helpfull) plus a tiny fraction of times picked by the hords on Rotten.com (still cross checking the top 100 choices) plus a larger fraction for previous picks on DDP. (I'm still adding new names from this years DDP) (going to mash into it the lists from HPDP & CPDP) Adding into the mix a "near death" figure - for open ended pools a straight line graph, and from those pools with a banding - ones rigged with a sawtooth bias towards age grouped to match so as to gain maximum points verses risk of waisting choices.
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 09:34 AM

Bartholomew Ulufa'alu is going on my DDP next year. Anyone with a name as fantastic as that is deserving of more widespread recognition.
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 10:39 AM

View PostRotten Ali, on Oct 14 2006, 07:23 AM, said:

Just a few names that have found their way into my spreadsheet.

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51.52 Waldheim
56.84 Blair
You think Blair will go before Waldheim?
Both the Bushes will go before Mandella?
I think you need to review your equations man.
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 12:04 PM

View PostRotten Ali, on Oct 14 2006, 09:07 AM, said:

Hi Football Fan
Sometimes it a rule of thumb - but I've standardised a factor of seriousness from say 3 months to live 70points in its own right down to say 0.33 points for each year of parkinsons. Prognosis, complaint and condition added to how often their name crops up (OoO was so very helpfull) plus a tiny fraction of times picked by the hords on Rotten.com (still cross checking the top 100 choices) plus a larger fraction for previous picks on DDP. (I'm still adding new names from this years DDP) (going to mash into it the lists from HPDP & CPDP) Adding into the mix a "near death" figure - for open ended pools a straight line graph, and from those pools with a banding - ones rigged with a sawtooth bias towards age grouped to match so as to gain maximum points verses risk of waisting choices.

Blimey, and I thought I was taking deadpools far too seriously!
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 12:42 PM

View Postmaryportfuncity, on Oct 13 2006, 11:08 PM, said:

Mind it's a bugger, Gerald Ford - DL 2005 and 2006 - may well die in 2007. Never was much of a crowd pleaser our Gerald!
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Posted 14 October 2006 - 03:38 PM

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You think Blair will go before Waldheim?
Both the Bushes will go before Mandella?
I think you need to review your equations man.

George HW Bush lives beyond his sons presidency. Tony Blair lives for many years. George W Bush lives for many years. Nelson Mandella has a few moments - hopefully.

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 07:51 PM

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111.24 Pinochet

Something tells me General Augusto Pinochet is living off borrowed time...

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Posted 14 October 2006 - 09:58 PM

View PostBanshees Scream, on Oct 14 2006, 07:51 PM, said:

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111.24 Pinochet

Something tells me General Augusto Pinochet is living off borrowed time...
arent we all?

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Posted 15 October 2006 - 12:37 PM

Come on guy's stop having a go at my maths - I'm also factoring into the equation that Blair has heart problems and like the guy who can't eat a few pretzels without half choaking himself to death are both major targets for all those family members of 500,000 dead Iraqi's to go seeking some revenge.
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Posted 15 October 2006 - 05:46 PM

View PostRotten Ali, on Oct 15 2006, 01:37 PM, said:

Come on guy's stop having a go at my maths - I'm also factoring into the equation that Blair has heart problems and like the guy who can't eat a few pretzels without half choaking himself to death are both major targets for all those family members of 500,000 dead Iraqi's to go seeking some revenge.

Well, on that basis, change your maths. There's more Jews than Iraqi's waiting to exact revenge on ol' Nazi Kurt. :blink: Who, as it has been discussed already on this fora, is not a well old man.

Redo your equations sonny.
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Posted 16 October 2006 - 02:59 AM

View PostRotten Ali, on Oct 15 2006, 07:37 AM, said:

Come on guy's stop having a go at my maths - I'm also factoring into the equation that Blair has heart problems and like the guy who can't eat a few pretzels without half choaking himself to death are both major targets for all those family members of 500,000 dead Iraqi's to go seeking some revenge.

Blair's heart problem is supraventricular tachycardia. Unlike ventricular tachycardia, supraventricular tachycardia is not generally fatal.

He underwent an ablation for it and, if successful (which it was supposed to have been) he shouldn't have anymore irregular heartbeat.

Most people with SVT don't have the ablation as it is controllable with medication - and sometimes without medication - but if I was the cardiologist for the Prime Minister I'd recommend the ablation as well.

I have a cardiac arrythmia myself (premature ventricular contractions), and I don't expect it to lessen my lifespan. Some of the other things I have done, now, are another story.....
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