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#1 Tempus Fugit

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:10 PM

So do you think that guests contributions were on the whole a good or bad thing?

Want to see the return of the drive by ranter?

Or glad to see the back of them?

Have your say.
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:15 PM

I voted for "No" as it doesn't take much to register on the site. Although I have to admit in an attempt to be the first to post information on the site, I've forgotten to log in and been able to do so under a guest login
Although those that rant about the goings on are more reluctant to register and thus depriving us of a bit of entertainment

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:28 PM

I voted no too. It is afterall very easy and free to register
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:54 PM

Voted No.

It is TOO easy to register.

How about DNA samples ?

That would put the bas****s off.

Or a cash donation to Brinsworth House - if you havent got recognisable DNA.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:57 PM

Is it only me that misses the guest rants?

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:09 PM

I do miss them and the occasional kranks and there's no good reason not to register before posting. However I suppose that the nature of ranting is that if one takes time to register the rage of the moment is lost. Besides I rather enjoy reading them.

So, on the whole, open it up say I.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:14 PM

I voted yes - but only because I can't be bothered finding other idiotic things to do.....
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:21 PM

Perhaps we'll introduce a series of "drive-by specials" where ranters are free to post for a certain time until it gets out of control again :(

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 09:58 PM

I vorted yes and thernb decioseded to read the post is thaty okay? I personly loke the guests and will misst the lADY bird wathcer since now we won;t know how shes doing.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:19 PM

I didnt vote as the only topic that they should be able to post in is
IRATE VISITORS RAGE HERE IF YOU MUST!

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:26 PM

View PostDeadornot, on Feb 14 2006, 02:19 PM, said:

I didnt vote as the only topic that they should be able to post in is
IRATE VISITORS RAGE HERE IF YOU MUST!

I voted No, but I sort of agree with you Deadornot.

Perhaps we should have IRATE NEWLY REGISTERED MEMBERS RAGE HERE IF YOU MUST!

At the very least, it'll cut down on the pure crap and hopefully only leave us with those ranters entertaining enough to register...
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Posted 14 February 2006 - 10:34 PM

View PostCanadian Paul, on Feb 14 2006, 10:26 PM, said:

View PostDeadornot, on Feb 14 2006, 02:19 PM, said:

I didnt vote as the only topic that they should be able to post in is
IRATE VISITORS RAGE HERE IF YOU MUST!

I voted No, but I sort of agree with you Deadornot.

Perhaps we should have IRATE NEWLY REGISTERED MEMBERS RAGE HERE IF YOU MUST!

At the very least, it'll cut down on the pure crap and hopefully only leave us with those ranters entertaining enough to register...

my only problem with that is that then they would be ranting and swearing at us all the time and we would end up with a very high banned list.

But yeah, it would be more entertaining.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 11:32 PM

Well I voted yes, I like the idea that guests can post,

some of their contributions have been both enlightening and entertaining.

Of course you're going to get the occasional troublemaker, who spams the board.

Swift and decisive deletion of that kind of nonsense is needed.

But mostly I'd say that guest posts add a certain piquancy to the forum.
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:37 AM

I voted no. If someone wants to post to the forum, it does not take that much energy to register.
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:43 AM

I voted to allow guests to post. They are an enhancement to and part of the spirit of DL, as I see it.

It's not like the forum gets clogged up by guests anyway, is it? Most of the inane/annoying drivel seems to come from members; at least some of the guests who can be bothered seem to add some interest, like David J Cook (FRAS) in the Patrick Moore thread, or the Anti-Lula/Castro nutter :D in the Niemeyer thread. I even quite like the ones who chip in with a death-threat one-liner now and then. I can't remember ever being really offended by a guest; it's usually other members to whom I take offence. ;)

The only time it really gets to be a problem is when a member takes the ranter's bait and rants back, thus starting a slanging match with said drive-by ranter. That doesn't happen too often, does it?
Let's not prevent guests from posting on the basis of some knee-jerk reaction or just "because we can".

Isn't "moderation" of the threads one of the reasons we have Moderators? If and when things get out of hand, we can make changes, but I don't think we should make a pre-emptive strike on guests. That would lower us to the level of, say, Dubya, for instance. :o Nobody wants that.

View PostGrim Reaper, on Feb 14 2006, 09:21 PM, said:

Perhaps we'll introduce a series of "drive-by specials" where ranters are free to post for a certain time until it gets out of control again :)
I half-heartedly concur with GR on this point. It's not a bad compromise, IF one must be made. Perhaps a period of one or two days after the death of someone on the list, as there are bound to be (potentially irate and, therefore, funny) people googling them shortly after their demise. Popular favourites not on the DL too, e.g. Dickie O' or, dare I say it, Jane Tomlinson.

But, to reiterate, I vote we allow guests to post whenever they like, so long as it doesn't get out of hand. If a guest-related situation gets out of hand, let the Mods do their thing.

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 03:48 AM

After giving it oodles of thought, I have voted yes.

I pretty much hate the guests, and most of what they post. Generally, I am an exclusionist at heart, and most emphatically don't think that guests should be allowed in Dead Chat (God forbid!!).

However, I am quite fond of the drive-by, and actually (sometimes) quite enjoy the ensuing repartee. I'm also a HUGE fan of that nutter who posts in the Niemeyer thread. I'd also hate to see MH's DLRI go to waste, especially as I was just beginning to get the hang of it. Furthermore, I remember having quite a thought-provoking debate with a guest about the source of social deviance. (Well, it certainly provoked my thoughts.)

I agree with Star Crossed's point above; qualifying the following by first stating that I think our Moderators do a wonderful job of keeping us all in line and keeping everything running shipshape, surely with the host of Mods that we have, the guests can be managed? Admittedly, it got a bit hectic over the weekend, but maybe that was an anomaly? I take Rude Kid's point about how the mods sometimes have to trudge through multiplicitous rubbish in the mornings; as I am not a Mod, and am rarely up in the mornings, I don't know just how bad this is.

And, I am still a bit lightheaded from the incident over the weekend involving my computer, a naughty link posted by a guest, and NASTY photos.

Finally, I worry that w*nker guests who would normally simply drive by, post something sh*t, and then forget about us, will register, post the sh*t, and then continue to return, the act of registering causing them to pay more attention to the site than they would otherwise. I concede that it is easier to "deal" with members than with guests, but do we really want to become one of "those" sites (the likes of whom shall remain nameless...) that exist in a frenzy of banning?
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:03 AM

I voted no because it seems like they dilute teh quality of the thread with inane comments or answers for school assignments. But, I can also see the entertainment value to allowing the masses to post.

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Posted 15 February 2006 - 09:36 AM

Voted yes as well.

I was veering towards no, but the silver-tongued arguments of Star Crossed and in eternum+ persuaded me to see the benefits of guest posts. Guests who post lots of times without registering wind me up, Himler recently being a good example of this. The DLRI is a good reason to allow them, also the sheer lunacy and narrow-mindedness of some of them (especially those in the Pete Twunterty thread) makes me chuckle. Perhaps guest posts could be banned from those threads which have been taken over by these posts.

Maybe if those who have registered start ranting, then the mods could have a polite word. :) or :D perhaps?
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:10 PM

I voted yes. What harm can a guest do to Death List?
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Posted 15 February 2006 - 01:34 PM

I voted yes .. the more the merrier :D
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