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Posted 20 October 2006 - 11:13 PM

Bo Diddley, another ageing blues/rocker - 78 in December - a man noted for giving his all in a gig, not shortchaning audiences. Note the level of activity on his news page. It'll be a nail-biter of WW1 veterans vs Titanic survivor dimensions as to whether Bo or Chuck peg out first.
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Posted 28 October 2006 - 04:10 PM

View Postmaryportfuncity, on Oct 20 2006, 11:13 PM, said:

Bo Diddley, another ageing blues/rocker - 78 in December - a man noted for giving his all in a gig, not shortchaning audiences. Note the level of activity on his news page. It'll be a nail-biter of WW1 veterans vs Titanic survivor dimensions as to whether Bo or Chuck peg out first.

As much as I hate to think it, B.B. King may beat them both. I'm not in the mood at the moment to look for the article, but he's 81, admittedly slowing down (rightfully so), is in increasing discomfort and his head isn't as clear as it used to be. From what I hear of the man, he's as pleasant as they get and for me, a joy to listen to.
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Posted 29 October 2006 - 05:25 PM

BB's older than the pair of them and he's lived a healthier life - mentally - than f**ked up Chuck. Might count for summat in the longevity stakes. When yer body gives out yer mind often makes the final decsion about how long you're around.
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 02:56 PM

He's coming to Maryport.
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 03:22 PM

Correction: He's booked to come to Maryport. Whether or not he shows up on stage depends on his being paid, upfront, in cash.

A (late) friend did a tour with Mr. Berry, and at all times had to wear a large badge emblazoned with "Chucks' Slave" He had a few tales about shows being blown out due to lack of hard dollars upfront.

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He's coming to Maryport.

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 03:44 PM

View PostAnubis the Jackal, on Apr 25 2008, 04:22 PM, said:

Correction: He's booked to come to Maryport. Whether or not he shows up on stage depends on his being paid, upfront, in cash.

A (late) friend did a tour with Mr. Berry, and at all times had to wear a large badge emblazoned with "Chucks' Slave" He had a few tales about shows being blown out due to lack of hard dollars upfront.

View Postmaryportfuncity, on Apr 25 2008, 03:56 PM, said:

He's coming to Maryport.



Either way, in famously reactionary West Cumbria it is true to say that the main attractions at the annual Blues Festival are a convicted black pervert and the famously gay and effete Marc Almond.

f**k sake, why can't they listen to local opinion and book Motorhead?
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Posted 25 April 2008 - 03:52 PM

View Postmaryportfuncity, on Apr 25 2008, 04:44 PM, said:

the main attractions at the annual Blues Festival are a convicted black pervert and Marc Almond.
Would that be Alabama blues harp legend Swallowin' Marc Almond?

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Posted 25 April 2008 - 04:45 PM

View PostTAFKAG, on Apr 25 2008, 04:52 PM, said:

View Postmaryportfuncity, on Apr 25 2008, 04:44 PM, said:

the main attractions at the annual Blues Festival are a convicted black pervert and Marc Almond.
Would that be Alabama blues harp legend Swallowin' Marc Almond?

Jesus - if I'd had my tea yet it would be all over my keyboard.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 10:01 AM

According to his website he has no concerts scheduled past May 2012. I wonder if he is winding down his tour career like this cause of health reasons.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 04:59 PM

Turns 86 today and is still performing concerts (including one last night). The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has a week-long celebration of Chuck Berry's career, capping off this weekend with another live performance by Chuck himself.

Suffice to say, he's quite active, may not be a good qualifier for DL 2013.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:34 PM

Chuck Berry says he's nearing the end.. http://thecelebrityc...g-days-are-over

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 12:22 AM

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Chuck Berry says he's nearing the end.. http://thecelebrityc...g-days-are-over
hardly sounds as if he's about to roll over, beethoven.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 02:26 AM

View PostGuest, on 27 November 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

Chuck Berry says he's nearing the end.. http://thecelebrityc...g-days-are-over

Just once, why don't you try actually reading an article before you post it?

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 03:57 AM

More to the point, do we think rock is dead? The charts today are full of dance/rap/hip-hop and boy bands. The only rock bands still capable of filling gigantic stadiums are older acts like U2. There isn't much coming up with any lasting influence.

This Australian music journo argues that Smells Like Teen Spirit was the last song by an underground/alternative band to become a mainstream hit.

I am certainly no expert on music but it seems the most interesting things happening in the rock/pop world these days are by folk and "anti-folk" acts like Regina Spector and the Mountain Goats but these guys aren't really crossing over into the mainstream.

So has Chuck Berry outlived the movement he helped to spawn?

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

View PostDavey Jones' Locker, on 28 November 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

More to the point, do we think rock is dead? The charts today are full of dance/rap/hip-hop and boy bands. The only rock bands still capable of filling gigantic stadiums are older acts like U2. There isn't much coming up with any lasting influence.

Rock music is not dead, it is dying slowly, and by slowly i mean it could take up to a good 30 years to 'die'. The thing is i just don't see the charts moving from dance music and boy bands and all sorts of crap like that, which is a shame because i love rock music whilst i loathe dance music, It will be a shame when Chuck Berry dies because he is a great Rock 'N' Roll icon.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:30 PM

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More to the point, do we think rock is dead? The charts today are full of dance/rap/hip-hop and boy bands. The only rock bands still capable of filling gigantic stadiums are older acts like U2. There isn't much coming up with any lasting influence.

Rock music is not dead, it is dying slowly, and by slowly i mean it could take up to a good 30 years to 'die'. The thing is i just don't see the charts moving from dance music and boy bands and all sorts of crap like that, which is a shame because i love rock music whilst i loathe dance music, It will be a shame when Chuck Berry dies because he is a great Rock 'N' Roll icon.

In this respect I like to misquote Frank Zappa: "Rock is not dead, it just smells funny."

It's difficult to predict musical fashion, in the '80s I thought that rap and hiphop would die in a few years. It's still here, much to my regret. I know enough young'uns who like rock, either to listen to or to play, or both. I guess rock'll be around for a while, at least as long as old farts as me are alive and well.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:54 PM

View PostMagere Hein, on 29 November 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostThe Dead Cow, on 29 November 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

View PostDavey Jones' Locker, on 28 November 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

More to the point, do we think rock is dead? The charts today are full of dance/rap/hip-hop and boy bands. The only rock bands still capable of filling gigantic stadiums are older acts like U2. There isn't much coming up with any lasting influence.

Rock music is not dead, it is dying slowly, and by slowly i mean it could take up to a good 30 years to 'die'. The thing is i just don't see the charts moving from dance music and boy bands and all sorts of crap like that, which is a shame because i love rock music whilst i loathe dance music, It will be a shame when Chuck Berry dies because he is a great Rock 'N' Roll icon.

In this respect I like to misquote Frank Zappa: "Rock is not dead, it just smells funny."

It's difficult to predict musical fashion, in the '80s I thought that rap and hiphop would die in a few years. It's still here, much to my regret. I know enough young'uns who like rock, either to listen to or to play, or both. I guess rock'll be around for a while, at least as long as old farts as me are alive and well.

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Yes, i guess what I am saying though is that there doesn't seem to be much innovation in the area and what innovation there is doesn't seem to be crossing over to the mainstream. Obviously one factor in this is the monopoly on the charts by the big US record companies who obviously find dance, boy bands, Britney Spears, etc, easier to market.

The internet has to be factored in too, though but I am not sure if many acts distributing their music through alternative channels will ever gain more than a cult following or be one-hit wonders.


I mentioned folk types like Regina Spektor and the Mountain Goats above simply because I was thinking along the lines of each generation's music being a reaction against the last. Since we have had many years of Afro-American rappers now, if rock does make a comeback, I predict the next generation will latch onto white folk singers or something like that again. It has been a long time since the folk singer-songwriters were at their height.

Anyway, it is interesting to reflect upon this as we reach the 50th anniversary of the early Beatles releases.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:58 PM

View PostDavey Jones' Locker, on 28 November 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

More to the point, do we think rock is dead? The charts today are full of dance/rap/hip-hop and boy bands. The only rock bands still capable of filling gigantic stadiums are older acts like U2. There isn't much coming up with any lasting influence.

This Australian music journo argues that Smells Like Teen Spirit was the last song by an underground/alternative band to become a mainstream hit.

I am certainly no expert on music but it seems the most interesting things happening in the rock/pop world these days are by folk and "anti-folk" acts like Regina Spector and the Mountain Goats but these guys aren't really crossing over into the mainstream.

So has Chuck Berry outlived the movement he helped to spawn?
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 11:20 PM

Well, the last time I really listened to the top 40 seriously was when I was a youngster back in 1992. Here are the Aussie charts for that year. Guns 'n' Roses, Nirvana, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Tom Cochrane and Pearl Jam all feature, along with James Blundell and James Reyne (country rock) and Roxette (at the softer, more commercial end of the spectrum). As you can see, some of these are the grunge bands going mainstream.

The previous year (1991) had U2, Jimmy Barnes, Metallica and more Roxette and Guns 'n' Roses. Hence, the charts were fairly rock-oriented back in those days. (In the years immediately after that, came the likes of Oasis.)

Here is the 2011 top 100. I am definitely not familiar with all the acts there but none stand out to me as rock-oriented performers. As you say, though, I am sure there are still lots of kids playing rock music in their proverbial garages and on the pub circuit but are any breaking through to wider audiences? Of those not breaking through, is there anything interesting going on that the big record companies are ignoring for being "too uncommercial" or is the genre completely exhausted of ideas?

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Maybe it's an Australian thing, Davey. I just took a look at the American top 100 singles list for 1992, and it's loaded with rap,R&B, and adult contemporary stuff. Furthermore, all of the songs by rockers that are up in the top 30 (by the Chili Peppers, Mr. Big, GNR, etc.), while they're good songs, they're all ballads. The hardest rocking song in the top 50 is "Smells Like Teen Spirit," and that only managed to reach #32. 1991's US chart is even worse - there are plenty of groups with impeccable rock credentials (Scorpions, Queensryche, Extreme, Lenny Kravitz, Warrant...), but again ALL of their songs on the chart are soft ballads. The closest thing I can find to a hard rocking song anywhere on the '91 chart is Tesla's cover version of "Signs," and even that one's not that hard.




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