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Posted 05 July 2005 - 08:33 AM

There's a whole generation of folk singers out there straddling the mid sixties to seventies in age. Whilst not seriously old a lot of this crowd have played night after night in smoky venues, drunk heavily throughout their careers and been obliged to drive long distances in search of a few quid because many of them never really made it.

One or two - like Gordon Lightfoot - did do well. Others, like Tom Paxton and many of the British crowd - Wizz Jones, Harvey Andrews etc - never made it out of the folk clubs and have no massive 'hits' covered by other artists to keep them in cash, obliging them to keep covering road miles and turning up in front of a few dozen people.

It can't be doing them any good. I know Gordon Lightfoot was lucky to survive suffering an abdominal haemorrage on stage in 2002 and miraculously recovered to play Live8. There must be a few others in this category fixin' to strum their last. Anyone know more than me and want to share it?
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Posted 05 July 2005 - 11:44 AM

Maybe we could have some famous Morris Dancers as well....

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 11:51 AM

VileBody, on Jul 5 2005, 01:44 PM, said:

Maybe we could have some famous Morris Dancers as well....
Huh? Famous Morris dancers... we might as well add flying pigs.

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Posted 05 July 2005 - 11:55 AM

Who said the Dutch don't understand irony....

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 09:07 AM

I dispute that - the most famous living Morris dancer is probably John Kirkpatrick, something of a hero in certain circles (of which I'm proud to be in!).
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 09:42 AM

Don't know if you'd call him a folk singer (probably not) but Roy Harper has been knockin' on Heaven's door for a while, with various ailments physical and mental, and balladeer/singer-songwiter Dan Fogelberg has been battling prostate cancer, but I don't really think that they, or anyone else mentioned here would really qualify on the famous front.
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 10:46 AM

Ohgodohgodohgod.....

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 10:51 AM

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 10:51 AM

VileBody, on Jul 5 2005, 11:44 AM, said:

Maybe we could have some famous Morris Dancers as well....
A new potential definition for oxymoron I see.
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 11:11 AM

The Four Horsemen, on Jul 6 2005, 10:07 AM, said:

I dispute that - the most famous living Morris dancer is probably John Kirkpatrick, something of a hero in certain circles (of which I'm proud to be in!).
"Probably..."???????

You mean you know the names of two of them??????????

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 11:19 AM

To be fair, entering "John Kirkpatrick" into my search engine did produce 133,000 results :blink:
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 11:23 AM

Cerberus, on Jul 6 2005, 12:19 PM, said:

To be fair, entering "John Kirkpatrick" into my search engine did produce 133,000 results :blink:
Oh well, pardon me....had I but known.....

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 12:46 PM

Fogleberg sold records around the world, I reckon he'd qualify. Certainly more of an international celebrity than Claire Raynor and Patrick Moore combined.
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 02:37 PM

Any "Folk" singer worth his or her salt had the good sense to die early in their careers to ensure their position of "suffering artist". See, Ochs, Phil, for confirmation. He was so proficient at upsetting the applecart he was murdered.
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 03:55 PM

So Pete Seeger who's done more for folk music than several thousand others combined obviously isn't a folk singer.

Does Keith Richards continued hold on life stop him being a rock star?
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 04:07 PM

Try John Kirkpatrick accordion and see what happens in Google.
Most of the other famous morris dancers are dead, but the Bampton and Adderbury morris troupes are probably the best know collections of morris dancers.

Is that my credibility disappearing into the distance I can see??
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 07:34 PM

Do the Bampton and Adderbury morris dancers all cram themselves in a phone box after their dance? Witnessing morris dancers do that about 10 years ago is enough to make me a defender of the art that is morris dancing.

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 07:38 PM

Four Horseman....I thought your credibility was in danger until I spotted the beautiful creature in the bathtub on your very own page.

Anyone with such taste in lady friends has credibility, end of.
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 09:49 PM

Judy Colllins is still out and about and performing as is that raspy throated squwaker who at least began in folk although he crossed over rather substantially into the pop charts--yes that one--Bobby Zimmerman, usually known as Bob Dylan. It's odd but years back he kept saying 'It's alright ma I'm only bleeding' and yet he's still alive. After all these years bleeding you'd have thought he woulkd have kicked off. What gives? And then of course Joan Baez is still with us and still performing (hopefully for a long long time to come :old: ).

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Posted 06 July 2005 - 11:46 PM

Is Ewan MacColl still around?
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