Magere Hein 1,397 Posted July 1, 2014 I've always had a hard time with people insisting that we suddenly start praying. If their deity is omnipresent and omniscient, surely he'd be aware of what's going on. Unless she's suggesting it's a last minute petition to the deity to say "hey don't wipe us out just yet!". But as someone told me a month or so ago when allegedly it was the work of "angels" that saved a small child when he fell out of an 11th floor window onto a pile of mulch and then just a day or so later 250+ Turkish miners were killed, that we weren't to question why "God" does what he does. Those Turkish miners were godless heathens, so that's alright. What I'm missing in al this is not the "start praying" bit, but rather the "start paying" bit, after all the most important thing in the god business. regards, Hein Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 5,997 Posted July 2, 2014 Even if we took advice from this woman we would still go to hell at the rapture as you have to do the will of God to get into heaven rather than just plead for mercy - at least that is what I was always told at the Anglican church my parents went to.The Evangelical church on the other hand when I visited talked so much self righteous crap that I just couldn`t be arsed to argue as it was as futile as a windscreen wiper attached to a goats arse!I always think with people like Graham`s daughter (and Graham) that ram their religion home to others 24/7 must be insecure about its validity.I am religious but think that religion should be treated like a penis - fine to be proud of, fine to show in private but not to be gotten out in public and rammed down the throat of others! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 8,599 Posted July 9, 2014 Apparently recording a new video message that will be released on his 96th Birthday (Nov 7). Either all those prayers worked, he wasn't as ill as all that anyway or he is an optimist? This may be a cover and he is recording something that will be shown when he dies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,269 Posted July 9, 2014 Apparently recording a new video message that will be released on his 96th Birthday (Nov 7). Either all those prayers worked, he wasn't as ill as all that anyway or he is an optimist? This may be a cover and he is recording something that will be shown when he dies. "Never-before-seen" video........ i.e. probably something he recorded in 1995 and has been lying around ever since.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,465 Posted July 9, 2014 Apparently recording a new video message that will be released on his 96th Birthday (Nov 7). Either all those prayers worked, he wasn't as ill as all that anyway or he is an optimist? This may be a cover and he is recording something that will be shown when he dies. "Never-before-seen" video........ i.e. probably something he recorded in 1995 and has been lying around ever since.... They've been showing his "crusades" on TV a lot recently over here in the U.S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,269 Posted July 9, 2014 Er, what? Crusades? Thought he was 95 not 995! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,465 Posted July 9, 2014 Er, what? Crusades? Thought he was 95 not 995! These I believe the one in 1966 was held at Earl's Court and he was joined by Cliff Richard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh4DeLW5-ag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,001 Posted July 31, 2014 http://billygraham.org/story/franklin-graham-my-father-still-prays-for-the-lost/ Update on the Rev from his son. Nothing particularly useful there: he's basically bedridden and senile. AND AS FOR THE FATH etc etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 5,997 Posted July 31, 2014 What I took from this is that he can`t actually do anything for himself -So they are keeping his cause going by constantly mentioning what he is supposedly praying for and replying to letters on his behalf (despite him being nearly deaf blind most probably senile and ridden with Parkinson`s disease)as can be seen on his website!Sounds a bit exploitative if you ask me ..then again this is Evangelism we are talking about! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,210 Posted August 7, 2014 What I took from this is that he can`t actually do anything for himself -So they are keeping his cause going by constantly mentioning what he is supposedly praying for and replying to letters on his behalf (despite him being nearly deaf blind most probably senile and ridden with Parkinson`s disease)as can be seen on his website!Sounds a bit exploitative if you ask me ..then again this is Evangelism we are talking about! Well, Christianity has paraded the corpse of Jesus for 2000 years now. (Yes, I needed a week to come up with that.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 5,997 Posted October 3, 2014 http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/billy-graham-weak-doing-well-ahead-96th-birthday/nhZkL/ http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/09/29/5208328/son-rev-billy-graham-has-weakened.html#.VC8O0GctDIU -Weaker than last year but doing well according to Franklin Graham.He is still housebound after his lung infection last year.Looks like he make 2015 after all.3 months is a long time at his age though.If he gets any infections or other complications then I think that will be it but who knows when that will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 9,983 Posted October 4, 2014 http://www.wsoctv.co...birthday/nhZkL/ http://www.charlotte...ml#.VC8O0GctDIU -Weaker than last year but doing well according to Franklin Graham.He is still housebound after his lung infection last year.Looks like he make 2015 after all.3 months is a long time at his age though.If he gets any infections or other complications then I think that will be it but who knows when that will happen. Well, surprise longevity or not, this isn't a Zsa Zsa tease, the man remains hideously ill and nobody is talking recovery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Book 3,342 Posted November 7, 2014 Another Birthday for him today, No. 96. It's enough, Billy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,269 Posted December 1, 2014 "Relatively healthy" apparently despite being ill all year. Thinks he can live to 100. http://radaronline.c...insons-disease/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 9,983 Posted December 1, 2014 "Relatively healthy" apparently despite being ill all year. Thinks he can live to 100. http://radaronline.c...insons-disease/ So, do we all get religion or keep our other faith that he's points in the bag very soon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 5,997 Posted December 1, 2014 Well if the National Enquirer says he is going strong he should be dead by the end of the week. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 5,997 Posted December 1, 2014 Most recent picture of him.I think he looks incredibly frail and I had to look at the picture several times to be sure it was him.Looks like he could be Jesus`s birthday present this year -https://twitter.com/PastorTullian (scroll down to November 29th) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USFuneralDirector 2 Posted December 6, 2014 Hospice anyone? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3ocmG9IUAA-tSk.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Creep 7,011 Posted February 11, 2015 Sometimes it's hard to tell when these web pages have indeed been 'updated'. This SEEMS to be from this past week and SEEMS to be his grandson saying 'he's old lol' (ok he didn't say lol) and SEEMS to indicate since his birthday he's been in hospital for respiratory issues, and most DEFINITELY a statement asking for prayers. Read I to this link anything else you wish. Anyway, here's a presumed update. Sir C http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/24185839/son-asking-for-prayers-for-rev-billy-graham Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,210 Posted June 4, 2015 New health update from his son: http://www.wltx.com/story/life/faith/2015/06/01/at-96-how-is-billy-graham-doing-update-from-his-son/28315159/ Not really insightful, probably because there is this whole faith industry built around him and Franklin Graham is using his father as a marketing tool ("He still lives because Christianity is being attacked"). I mean, those daily articles from him, they're (probably) ghost-written as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 18,926 Posted June 12, 2015 Rachel Maddow apologises for saying he's dead: http://youtu.be/pJVOKEn-oAg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 10,210 Posted August 19, 2015 Billy Graham's son-in-law has been found unresponsive in his swimming pool: http://wkrn.com/2015/08/18/billy-grahams-son-in-law-hospitalized-after-being-found-unresponsive-in-pool/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 14,790 Posted August 19, 2015 Billy Graham's son-in-law has been found unresponsive in his swimming pool: http://wkrn.com/2015/08/18/billy-grahams-son-in-law-hospitalized-after-being-found-unresponsive-in-pool/ "Unresponsive" Is this the new word for unconscious, or does it mean something different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,465 Posted August 19, 2015 Billy Graham's son-in-law has been found unresponsive in his swimming pool: http://wkrn.com/2015/08/18/billy-grahams-son-in-law-hospitalized-after-being-found-unresponsive-in-pool/ "Unresponsive" Is this the new word for unconscious, or does it mean something different? I think this may help explain If you are unconscious you are also unresponsive but it's due to a dramatic alteration of your mental state. If you are unresponsive you are simply not responding to outside stimuli and it could be to due to a number of different reasons that may not involve consciousness. So unresponsiveness is a symptom of being unconscious but not the cause; however, unresponsiveness can be a symptom of many things either mental or physical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulh85 101 Posted August 19, 2015 Billy Graham's son-in-law has been found unresponsive in his swimming pool: http://wkrn.com/2015/08/18/billy-grahams-son-in-law-hospitalized-after-being-found-unresponsive-in-pool/ "Unresponsive" Is this the new word for unconscious, or does it mean something different? basically when they threw rocks at him to check if he was still alive he didnt say "ouch" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
