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gcreptile

Posted Yesterday, 06:54 PM

German intellectual Fritz Raddatz is dead:

 

http://news.newsdire...critic-is-dead/

 

Another big german death as he was one of the most important german intellectuals, as a publisher, columnist and critic.


Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:49 PM

Going down for the last time is Italian porn director Lasse Braun (or so I've been lead to believe, by, erm, friends)

http://www.liberoquo...-Braun--il.html


gcreptile

Posted 18 February 2015 - 11:04 AM

German policeman Karl-Heinz Kurras is dead:

 

http://panteres.com/...nz-kurras-dead/

 

He shot the student Benno Ohnesorg in 1967 and triggered the student revolts of Germany in that period. It was later revealed that he also worked for the Stasi, the surveillance organistion of East Germany. The precise sequence of events has always been a controversial issue, mostly because the case serves as an ideological battlefield.

 

It's really a quite significant death for Germany, and it's apparently a year full of important german deaths.


Davey Jones' Locker

Posted 18 February 2015 - 12:33 AM

 

 

Yeah we suck here in arrogant America re: learning another language. It isn't even offered in schools until at least 9th grade, or at least when I was in it (read 1975 or so). Options were German Spanish French. In the opposite result of yours, I really wanted to learn French, but my mean parents said no you're taking Spanish. Chinga mi familia! Lol anyway 7 years later my sister says she wants to take French and they're like 'go for it'. Grrrr!! So where do I move to 30 years later? Cajun French southern Louisiana. Don't know a damn thing they're saying tyvm and I can't read the French Canadian genealogy documents from churches in 1700 where part of my tree came from. I'm a victim of circumstance lol. American arrogance any goofball parental units.

Forgot to say it's also a matter of wealth. My nephews are 12 and living middle class (we were blue collar when I grew up) and my one nephew learning....CHINESE (smart choice!). That wouldn't have happened in 1975.


Chinese is indeed a smart choice, and an admirably difficult one. Learning a tonal language isn't easy when your first language doesn't know that. Learning some 2500 common characters to get basic literacy is quite a job. As the joke goes: learning Chinese is much easier when you know Chinese.

A colleague of mine of Chinese ancestry (but Dutch upbringing) speaks Chinese. Last year he paid a visit to China and soon experienced that what he learned from his parents didn't work in Peking. He can't read Chinese, so he often used English. I suppose your nephew learns Mandarin.

Apart from the UK (and perhaps Ireland), things have changed in Europe. Even in large nations with a tradition of language chauvinism, say France, Germany, Italy or Spain, the majority know one or more foreign languages at a useful level. In the 90s I went to France for business a few times, and without some French one was fucked there and then. In 2013 I was in Paris and Normandy for hols and was pleasantly surprised by the number of locals whose English was better than my French.

The Americans I meet are not average yankee Joes and Janes, after all they moved here at some time. Their language skills vary. I met a 23-ish student (at some business school) from Lansing, Michigan, in the pub last year. She'd learned German in high school and had been learning Dutch by trial and error for a month. She asked me what I was reading (a novel by W.F. Hermans) and she read out loud a passage -in an unusual accent- and translated it almost perfectly. I was much impressed.

Of course the same pub is full of Americans, Australians and New Zealanders who don't even try.

regards,
Hein

 

Of course old Zealanders don't have to. 

 

It is all sex uf win and half a dizen of the ither to New Zealanders.


Handrejka

Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:30 PM

http://www.news.com....i-1227223437613

Movita Castaneda at 98.

Ex Mrs Brando.

Edit, dammit. Already posted but missed amongst the bickering :(

 

Finally a hit for my alternative 50


charon

Posted 17 February 2015 - 10:16 PM

http://www.news.com....i-1227223437613

Movita Castaneda at 98.

Ex Mrs Brando.

Edit, dammit. Already posted but missed amongst the bickering :(

CaptainChorizo

Posted 16 February 2015 - 11:31 PM

Lorena Rojas    Mexican Telenovela Star who is fairly well known in Latin America  is dead at 44 from liver cancer


Cat O'Falk

Posted 16 February 2015 - 11:03 PM

 

Yeah we suck here in arrogant America re: learning another language. It isn't even offered in schools until at least 9th grade, or at least when I was in it (read 1975 or so). Options were German Spanish French. In the opposite result of yours, I really wanted to learn French, but my mean parents said no you're taking Spanish. Chinga mi familia! Lol anyway 7 years later my sister says she wants to take French and they're like 'go for it'. Grrrr!! So where do I move to 30 years later? Cajun French southern Louisiana. Don't know a damn thing they're saying tyvm and I can't read the French Canadian genealogy documents from churches in 1700 where part of my tree came from. I'm a victim of circumstance lol. American arrogance any goofball parental units.

Forgot to say it's also a matter of wealth. My nephews are 12 and living middle class (we were blue collar when I grew up) and my one nephew learning....CHINESE (smart choice!). That wouldn't have happened in 1975.


Chinese is indeed a smart choice, and an admirably difficult one. Learning a tonal language isn't easy when your first language doesn't know that. Learning some 2500 common characters to get basic literacy is quite a job. As the joke goes: learning Chinese is much easier when you know Chinese.

A colleague of mine of Chinese ancestry (but Dutch upbringing) speaks Chinese. Last year he paid a visit to China and soon experienced that what he learned from his parents didn't work in Peking. He can't read Chinese, so he often used English. I suppose your nephew learns Mandarin.

Apart from the UK (and perhaps Ireland), things have changed in Europe. Even in large nations with a tradition of language chauvinism, say France, Germany, Italy or Spain, the majority know one or more foreign languages at a useful level. In the 90s I went to France for business a few times, and without some French one was fucked there and then. In 2013 I was in Paris and Normandy for hols and was pleasantly surprised by the number of locals whose English was better than my French.

The Americans I meet are not average yankee Joes and Janes, after all they moved here at some time. Their language skills vary. I met a 23-ish student (at some business school) from Lansing, Michigan, in the pub last year. She'd learned German in high school and had been learning Dutch by trial and error for a month. She asked me what I was reading (a novel by W.F. Hermans) and she read out loud a passage -in an unusual accent- and translated it almost perfectly. I was much impressed.

Of course the same pub is full of Americans, Australians and New Zealanders who don't even try.

regards,
Hein

 

Of course old Zealanders don't have to. 


Magere Hein

Posted 16 February 2015 - 09:42 PM

Yeah we suck here in arrogant America re: learning another language. It isn't even offered in schools until at least 9th grade, or at least when I was in it (read 1975 or so). Options were German Spanish French. In the opposite result of yours, I really wanted to learn French, but my mean parents said no you're taking Spanish. Chinga mi familia! Lol anyway 7 years later my sister says she wants to take French and they're like 'go for it'. Grrrr!! So where do I move to 30 years later? Cajun French southern Louisiana. Don't know a damn thing they're saying tyvm and I can't read the French Canadian genealogy documents from churches in 1700 where part of my tree came from. I'm a victim of circumstance lol. American arrogance any goofball parental units.

Forgot to say it's also a matter of wealth. My nephews are 12 and living middle class (we were blue collar when I grew up) and my one nephew learning....CHINESE (smart choice!). That wouldn't have happened in 1975.


Chinese is indeed a smart choice, and an admirably difficult one. Learning a tonal language isn't easy when your first language doesn't know that. Learning some 2500 common characters to get basic literacy is quite a job. As the joke goes: learning Chinese is much easier when you know Chinese.

A colleague of mine of Chinese ancestry (but Dutch upbringing) speaks Chinese. Last year he paid a visit to China and soon experienced that what he learned from his parents didn't work in Peking. He can't read Chinese, so he often used English. I suppose your nephew learns Mandarin.

Apart from the UK (and perhaps Ireland), things have changed in Europe. Even in large nations with a tradition of language chauvinism, say France, Germany, Italy or Spain, the majority know one or more foreign languages at a useful level. In the 90s I went to France for business a few times, and without some French one was fucked there and then. In 2013 I was in Paris and Normandy for hols and was pleasantly surprised by the number of locals whose English was better than my French.

The Americans I meet are not average yankee Joes and Janes, after all they moved here at some time. Their language skills vary. I met a 23-ish student (at some business school) from Lansing, Michigan, in the pub last year. She'd learned German in high school and had been learning Dutch by trial and error for a month. She asked me what I was reading (a novel by W.F. Hermans) and she read out loud a passage -in an unusual accent- and translated it almost perfectly. I was much impressed.

Of course the same pub is full of Americans, Australians and New Zealanders who don't even try.

regards,
Hein

Sir Creep

Posted 16 February 2015 - 06:55 PM

Predictor, that Nini Theilade thingy is in Danish, isn't it?
Can you understand it? I can parse fragments, but not much.
regards,
Hein

Same here, I pick up a few words here and there, but I think it's much harder to understand Danish when hearing it as opposed to reading it. :24087468: I think of German when I hear it, it has the same type of vocal/intonation "style". Norwegian is much easier for me.
 
You can think of the three languages as a spectrum where Swedish and Danish are at both ends with Norwegian being in the middle. So, a person from Norway has it easier to understand both other languages than we and the Danes do.
If only we Brits were to put so much emphasis on foreign languages as your guys' countries do. I salute you gentlemen.
Thanks, the main credit is due to the education system here. In 3rd grade, it's mandatory to learn English. In 6th grade, every student gets to pick one foreign language. Normally it's either French, Spanish or German, but in my case, I couldn't pick the one I wanted: Spanish. Why? Well, the teacher quit and they couldn't find a new one. :o
 
In the end, I went with French in the hopes of being served French cuisine every now and then during class; You know, stuff like baguette and French fries. :)

Yeah we suck here in arrogant America re: learning another language. It isn't even offered in schools until at least 9th grade, or at least when I was in it (read 1975 or so). Options were German Spanish French. In the opposite result of yours, I really wanted to learn French, but my mean parents said no you're taking Spanish. Chinga mi familia! Lol anyway 7 years later my sister says she wants to take French and they're like 'go for it'. Grrrr!! So where do I move to 30 years later? Cajun French southern Louisiana. Don't know a damn thing they're saying tyvm and I can't read the French Canadian genealogy documents from churches in 1700 where part of my tree came from. I'm a victim of circumstance lol. American arrogance any goofball parental units.
Sir C

Forgot to say it's also a matter of wealth. My nephews are 12 and living middle class (we were blue collar when I grew up) and my one nephew learning....CHINESE (smart choice!). That wouldn't have happened in 1975.
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