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Sir Creep

Posted 01 September 2015 - 12:17 PM

Former Essex Tory MP Teresa Gorman, a leading rebel over the Maastricht Treaty in the 1990s, has died aged 83, her family said.
Ms Gorman trained as a teacher before being elected to represent Billericay in 1987, a seat she held until 2001.
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Sir Creep

Posted 31 August 2015 - 08:07 PM

The former Governor of Maryland (and also the 2nd oldest former governor ) Marvin Mandel has died at 95 http://www.wbaltv.co...age-95/35007178

 

And the current Maryland Governor has stage 3 cancer.  Nice place.
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(Edit: I believe -- though I haven't kept strict count -- that brings the number of former Governors who have died in 2015 to an astounding 8!  Give or take one.)


Posted 31 August 2015 - 05:57 PM

The former Governor of Maryland (and also the 2nd oldest former governor ) Marvin Mandel has died at 95 http://www.wbaltv.co...age-95/35007178


Posted 31 August 2015 - 05:47 PM

Interestingly Theresa Gormans predecessor as MP for Billericay is none other than Harvey Proctor, who's just been accused of raping and murdering boys when he was an MP. Looks like there's some kind of curse on that constituency !


Sir Creep

Posted 29 August 2015 - 09:21 PM

Duane Sommers had two stints as a Republican in the Washington (Spokane) state House of Representatives.

Sommers died this week at age 82.

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Posted 29 August 2015 - 07:00 AM

Michael Carttiss is also known for his demand at Margaret Thatcher's last Prime Minister's Questions that she should "cancel her resignation" as she could "wipe the floor with these people" presumably meaning the Heseltine supporters.

Richard Shepherd has only just retired as an MP but has a quadruple heart bypass a few years ago and looks very unwell.

Teddy Taylor looked old in the 1970s.

RoverAndOut

Posted 29 August 2015 - 01:45 AM

You've missed off Nicholas Budgen who has also died many years back so I think Mrs Gorman is the third to go. Sir Teddy Taylor is definitely one to keep an eye on.

As an aside, it does strike me that female British former MPs don't have a great record of living to very old age. Having said this I think the oldest current one is Dame Jill Knight who might last a while longer yet.

 

 

Of the Maastricht rebels there's also Michael Carttiss (still alive aged 77) and Rupert Allason aka Nigel West (still alive aged 63). Allason's old man who was also a former MP lived to be nearly 100 so he may not be the best pick.

 

I'll be honest: when I saw that Gorman had died, it crossed my mind that I wondered of the fate of the other 'bastards' and whether she was the first to peg it. A quick Google search led me to this article from 2004 about a reunion of the 'bastards' and listed the names I mentioned above. If I'd read on, it does mention the death of Nick Budgen in 1998 as another 'bastard', the term being used to refer to the 8 Tory MPs who had the whip withdrawn over Maastricht. Interestingly, the article makes no mention of Michael Carttiss but Wikipedia includes him as having the whip withdrawn. Maybe he couldn't make the aforementioned reunion. It also includes Allason who refused to back a confidence motion in the government over Maastricht.

 

If we were talking about the specific people Major was referring to, they are believed to be Michael Howard, Michael Portillo and Peter Lilley, all of whom are still going strong. Howard is 74 and now a Peer of the Realm and riding the House of Lords Gravy Train. Speaking of trains, Portillo can usually be found on BBC2/4 riding a train somewhere or other and is 62 and Peter Lilley I'm astonished to discover is the only one of our little band of rebels to still sit in the House of Commons, aged 72.

 

Not sure Body's got too many more years left in him, Taylor, Gill and Shepherd all appear to be in decent health but could likewise drop dead any time. Interesting fact I've found regarding Teddy Taylor: apparently he is one of only 2 survivors of the first ever edition of Question Time in 1979. The other is Irish poet and novelist Edna O'Brien. Rupert Allason, as mentioned, looks like he could go on forever, plus he practises the Maharishi Yogi's Transcendental Meditation. Then again, it didn't do much good for Lennon and Harrison.

 

Wikipedia lists a further 18 rebels who voted against the government, all but 3 of which are still in the land of the living. Looks like this will be an area of rich pickings over the next decade or more as they range in age from 80s to 50s.


Posted 28 August 2015 - 07:18 PM

Of the Maastricht rebels there's also Michael Carttiss (still alive aged 77) and Rupert Allason aka Nigel West (still alive aged 63). Allason's old man who was also a former MP lived to be nearly 100 so he may not be the best pick.

charon

Posted 28 August 2015 - 07:04 PM

Doubt John Major will be going to her funeral. She becomes the second of his so-called 'bastards' to die. Here is a list of the infamous 7 and their current statuses:
John Wilkinson - d. March 2014
Teresa Gorman - d. August 2015
Sir Richard Body - Alive, aged 88
Chris Gill - Alive, aged 78
Sir Teddy Taylor - Alive, aged 78
Tony Marlow - Alive, aged 75
Sir Richard Shepherd - Alive, aged 72

we have to make sure Richard Body is on the list when he dies for obvious reasons..

Maybe, but not Gill. As he still breathes.

Posted 28 August 2015 - 06:58 PM

You've missed off Nicholas Budgen who has also died many years back so I think Mrs Gorman is the third to go. Sir Teddy Taylor is definitely one to keep an eye on.

As an aside, it does strike me that female British former MPs don't have a great record of living to very old age. Having said this I think the oldest current one is Dame Jill Knight who might last a while longer yet.

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